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it seems to me that Politicaly correctness is special treatment where basic laws are across the board for everyone.

Joe

PC in theory (a theory I disagree with) is good because it causes us to think about what we say and so should be more conciderate of others.  For example, I know you agree one should never call another person 'Nigger', and PC certainly agrees with you.  So we could agree that PC was good in that sense. 

My point is we don't need the control of PC to restrict us, we simply need to be civil, and reasonable.  Therefore without being Politically Correct, but by just being civil and reasonable, we also would not use the N word.

I like what you said before that quote, except the vigilante justice of beating someone into line.  In Scouts, if I remember correctly, Blue is for Courage, and White is for Honor, it is part of the ceremony for retiring a flag.  As the symbol of our Country, and as you said therefore a symbol of us, a flag is retired when it has served its time.  I think it is valid to debate if touching the ground is disgrace enough to cause a flag's retirement. 

CBS should not have shown nudity during a superbowl halftime show.  V- chip doesn't help much there, being a parent watching the show with your kids would not help.  I remember watching that superbowl, my kids were not exposed only because we made sandwiches in the kitchen then went and played fooseball during halftime.  The tv was on with the speakers going so we'd know when the game would be back on.   The problem with self censoring, is that it can't be done.  No cable channel is safe from inappropriate commercials even during a kid show, and the air waves are only safe if the FCC bothers to enforce current law.  We don't watch much TV for this very reason.  We have a fair collection of dvds and watch what we like to watch and have TV for sports and news mostly.  Even then there is no way to avoid inappropriate commercials. 

Its an odd thing for you to say censorship is subjective as if that's a bad thing.  You site the classic violence vs nudity, as if one could compare the two.  Like 3 seconds full frontal nudity is comparable to three bloodly head loppings.  Its apples and oranges.  Subjective is ok, lying about the rating or sneeking in inappropriate content isn't.   If they show private ryan and everyone knows what that means, it's ok.  The people who want to see it can, and the people who don't want to see it can not see it.   Beowulf was a good example, I did minor research, and was not surprized by the level of violence, or nudity, or language. I took my 17 and 18 year old sons to IMAX (the effects are awesome in IMAX), and didn't take my 11 and 14 year olds.  No surprises, in fact I expected the nudity to be worse than it actually was.  Have you seen the movie?  Grendel's mom is no worse than if Angelina had been there live in a golden one piece, tight fitting, dance outfit.  No big deal.  Beowulf himself was perhaps more shocking.   My point is that one could easily have full knowledge of the level of material and make a good choice.  The problem comes when as a culture we create laws so there are safe public places like the air waves or public parks, and people violate the laws.  I shouldn't have to worry about a half-time show, being appropriate for my boys to see.  I shouldn't have to worry about nudity or language or violence at a public beach.  There is nothing wrong with laws that protect public places from that.  If they need to be naked, swear, or violent, they can go do it in private, or where the law permits.  We shouldn't allow the 1st ammendment to be twisted into a freak show clause.     

I assure you, I feel that old.  It's a wonderful thing, raise your children right and get good at hiding tears of joy when you see lessons learned, applied in real life.  To stay on topic, they would likely give the same reasoning against PC that I have, but being young would use more bravado much like you did. 

 

Alien
a·li·en (l-n, lyn)
adj.
1. Owing political allegiance to another country or government; foreign: alien residents.
n.
1. An unnaturalized foreign resident of a country. Also called noncitizen.

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I never had a big issue with the Chief, as I've seen worse, but I can understand the sentiment, even if I don't agree with it.

I do find it odd no one's ever offended by the "Fighting Irish" though.  That sounds like it should be a lot more offensive than the "Warriors", "Braves" or "Illini"