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Please, PLEASE, PLEASE do not reference the 3rd ED DQ book when looking at character creation other than to determine Fatigue and TMR. We are NOT using ANY part of the character creation system outlined in the 3rd ED DQ book for character creation.

The amount of Exp granted in the amount listed in the table (that already includes the base). Ignore that other column, it is just there for part of the math.

Ignore that table for wealth, I think it is supposed to do the multiplying for you, but it never seems to work. What you should get is 60 times (5 x 2 x 6) the wealth of the Danai that you come from. Fro example, an average poor Danai has a wealth modifier of 1, an average average wealth Danai (like Kalah Danai) has a wealth modifier of 5.5 and a truly rich Danai (like Kordath) has a wealth modifier of 10.

Ignore any references to Experience Point Multipliers, we have removed them from the math. Originally all non-folk races had to spend an increased amount of experience to raise weapons, spells, and skills AFTER character creation. But that added math was confusing many of our players, so we pro-rated the amount of experience that non-folk get for adventures by the correct ratio and now everyone uses the experience point charts that are listed in the 3rd ED DQ book. I have a chart that I can send you that has the breakdown of what race earns how much experience. By the same token, non-folk races have a pro-rated reduced cost for increasing attributes to take into consideration the reduced amount of earned experience.

Yes, any and all experience discounts (Mage folk also have a notation of Alch/Court 25%) apply at both character creation and during regular play.

The wonders of a good night's sleep and a fresh look at everything.

I had an EP*iphany

let's say that
b = the base EP from the birthright table
c = the acters points remaining
m = the modifier from the starting EP table
then the algorythmis
Start EP = m[c] * b + 1000
which strangely enough equals the coresponding EP in the starting EP table. This [rocess uses two tables and a tue programmer feels that using table is for sissy ;-) I can get rid of the larger Starting EP table by not looking up the multiplier. The resulting algorthm looks like

If c > 5
        then
        b * (3 + (c - 5)/ 10) + 1000
        else
If c < 1
        then
        1000
        else
        b * (c(1 - (c -1)/10)) = 1000

will return the correct starting EP for a given birthright

seriously, the Starting EP table is the way to go when trying to do this outside of a computer. But it way fun to look at the two table and figure out a way to derve the numbers algorythmically.

now to take another look at the money laundering scheme you guys developed.

my Character started as a Legitimate, commoner of average wealth from Hurai and I have not been able to figure out how his starting wealth should have been 330 shells. I went to the write-up on Hurai and found no reference to how rich they might be or any wealth modifier. Based on the chart in the cheat sheet, I should have started with 120 shells.

obviously, I am missing something.

Ls there a chart where the wealth multiplier for each Danai is listed? I looked in the Player's guide and also in the Hurai reference and did not see anything there. The Player's guide mentioned wealth in passing and so did the Danai Reference, but I did not see a specific multiplier.